Listen – Apples and Snakes https://applesandsnakes.org Performance Poetry Tue, 23 Dec 2025 08:53:39 +0000 en-GB hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 https://applesandsnakes.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/cropped-Apples_And_Snakes_logo_512px-32x32.png Listen – Apples and Snakes https://applesandsnakes.org 32 32 S4 E10 | sophia thakur https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/12/23/s4-e10-sophia-thakur/ Tue, 23 Dec 2025 08:33:48 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=15210 Internationally acclaimed award-winning artist, best-selling author and performance poet – Sophia Thakur shines in this live recorded episode of the Apples and Snakes Podcast. Sophia has performed shows all over the world and tickets are always in high demand, usually selling-out within hours of going on sale. Her debut poetry book ‘Somebody Give This Heart a Pen’ became a #1 Bestseller and is included in many school curriculums. Recorded at Mason and Fifth, Yomi sits with Sophia to talk what it means to live as a poet — on and off the stage. Sophia reflects on her earliest entry points into spoken word (from Def Poetry Jam to her first performances), why certain rooms and circuits build muscle, and how her performance style evolved to an intimate, soft-power delivery. She shares her poem ‘Affirmation’, unpacking how self-affirmation, faith, and emotional honesty shape her writing process and why some pieces arrive as a “plea to myself.” The episode closes with a powerful performance video choice of Daniel Beaty’s ‘Knock Knock’, plus an honest look at poetry’s commercial possibilities and creative integrity.

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S4 E9 | Suli Breaks https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/12/16/s4-e9-suli-breaks/ Tue, 16 Dec 2025 09:52:10 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=15199 Suli Breaks exudes confidence and knows how to captivate an audience. His TEDxHousesofParliament speech, viewed over 300,000 times, showcases his ability to captivate audiences with his words. His reputation as a powerful speaker has led to invitations to prestigious events such as the United Nations National Commonwealth Day. In this episode, Suli shares his journey from university open mic to the international stage. His chosen poem touches on fatherhood and fulfilment, and the fine balance of art with business. With Yomi, they watch RADI’s ‘I’ve Loved Man’ – an electrifying and honest piece on love and betrayal.

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S4 E8 | el Crisis https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/12/09/s4-e8-el-crisis/ Tue, 09 Dec 2025 10:52:48 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=15166 Word. Power. Sound. These are the connotations synonymous with El Crisis. Known for his fusion of rap, chant, gospel, song and storytelling, El Crisis has been described as a “modern day Griot and Bard” and has a substantial catalogue of works that spans over 67 pieces. In this episode, the conversation takes an analytical look at how community and music build the voice. He shares his poem ‘Free man’ and together they discuss performance as a form of ancestral connection, staying present in the moment, and the tension between giving to the scene and receiving recognition in return.

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S4 E7 | Reece Williams https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/12/02/s4-e7-reece-williams/ Tue, 02 Dec 2025 10:26:17 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=15119 Reece Williams is a Mancunian poet of Jamaican and Trinidadian heritage whose debut collection ‘This Kind of Black’ was released this year. He has performed internationally and is celebrated for his works that speak as much in performance as they do on page. He often wrestles with being British, ideas surrounding identity and intergenerational trauma, and the burden placed on young, Black men. With Yomi, they watch Keisha Thompson’s performance of ‘Algebra’ – a title whose metaphor is for “the reunion of broken things” – a way to piece together what has been distorted, neglected, or made invisible.

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S4 E6 | Keith Jarrett https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/11/25/s4-e6-keith-jarrett/ Tue, 25 Nov 2025 09:27:42 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=15069 In a previous Apples and Snakes’s blogs, Keith Jarrett wrote “I got into performance poetry by accident – and it’s probably the best accident I’ve had”. Since then, he produced his collection ‘Selah’ and poetry pamphlet’ I Speak Home’. His writing regularly explores race, faith, sexuality and belonging. With sharp wit and intelligence, Jarrett is a magnetic performer, and equal parts preacher and poet. Jarrett performs ‘El Pueblo’ and chooses Kareem Parkins-Brown’s ‘Did you Pack Your own bags’ for discussion. This piece draws from the Cambridge Analytica scandal, asking the audience to consider how much of us is truly private when our data, memories, and “selves” are stored, mined, and easily manipulated

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S4 e5 | Zakariye Abdillahi https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/11/18/s4-e5-zakariye-abdillahi/ Tue, 18 Nov 2025 09:18:27 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=14925 Young artist, member of Roundhouse Poetry Collective and Hippodrome Origins, Zakariye Abdillahi talks with Yomi about being present and patient within poetry. His works often touch on the overlaps between masculinity, faith, and building a career in poetry at your own pace. His gentleness is evident in his soft voice on stage, used with intention. Within this episode, Zakayrie shares his poem ‘Chat to a Man’ and together they watch Polarbear’s (Stephen Camden) ‘Jessica’ – a popular poem that shows the vulnerable side of a young man falling in love and facing adult responsibilities.

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S4 e4 | Travis Alabanza https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/11/11/s4-e4-travis-alabanza/ Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:45:12 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=14862 Poet. Performer. Cultural changemaker. In just a few years Travis Alabanza has become one of the most exciting young performance artists in the queer arts scene. In this episode, Travis joins Yomi to unpack how poetry has sparked their wider creativity from fashion and theatre to fearless performance. They dive into their groundbreaking sell-out show ‘Burgerz’ and explore how lived experience can be transformed into electrifying art. Plus, Travis and Yomi react to a performance by poet Joelle Taylor, a radical presence in the LGBTQ+ genre, which ignites something powerful in the room. A raw, unfiltered conversation on being authentic, brave and re-making the rules.

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s4 e3 | Salena godden https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/11/04/s4-e3-salena-godden/ Tue, 04 Nov 2025 08:40:38 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=14790 Her poems are gritty and fierce, and she is a bold and fearless author, memoirist, broadcaster and poet of Jamaican-Irish heritage. Salena Godden and Yomi get to grips in an intimate conversation around the duality of the artist – from writing monster to gigging monster, and the solitude of creation against the performance on stage. She performs her poem ‘Our Anarchy’ – a poem that asks us feel deeply, resist, and reassemble what’s been broken. This episode explores the emotional cost of creativity and the challenge of writing from a place of grief and rage. Together, they watch Maya Angelou’s ‘We Wear the Mask’, a piece about how something simple, like a smile, can hide so much pain and fear in the face of oppression.

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Our Anarchy – Salena Godden

I’m daydreaming, how I might slow down and mellow
with age and write easy poetry about the happy little
dog on my knee and the pale lavender sky and the
soft snow. How maybe, one day, I will stop writing
so much protest poetry, stories soaked in trauma and
rooted in our grief, our anarchy, our hopes for
humanity, but then I remember I live and write in
the 2020s and the world is frightening and I am me
and here we are. Still, I often wonder what poems
we’d write in a more peaceful time, in another reality,
another era; work made from a place of freedom
and creativity and not in response or defence, nor
in anger or fear. Oh my loves, what dreams we dare
to dream, what beautiful books we write. Imagine
what art could look like, our theatre and music, what
lyrics we’d sing that were about anything but this
brutal and divided world. Oh, to create in a safe and
gentle space, a kind and listening world. Oh, to write
poems about how I love the happy little black dog,
so warm, sleeping on my lap, our breath rising and
falling together, the sky outside my window, lilac
and dove-blue, soft snow falling, and feel that love
and peace within me, how wonderful it would be to
live just like this, and write without a shadow.

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s04 e02 | Dean Atta https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/10/28/s04-e02-dean-atta/ Tue, 28 Oct 2025 08:16:35 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=14735 Filmmaker, poet and writer for all ages, award-winning Dean Atta is also a member of Malika’s Poetry Kitchen and a patron of LGBT+ History Month. He encourages writers to lean all the way into topics they love, no matter how small or niche. His works are celebrated for tackling themes of racism and self-acceptance. He’s the author of the poetry collection ‘There Is (Still) Love Here’ and the YA verse novels ‘The Black Flamingo’ (which won the Stonewall Book Award) and ‘Only on the Weekends’. Dean performs ‘An Ode to My Black Queer Body’ and together they watch John Agard’s famous and defiant performance of ‘Half Caste’ where he challenges prejudice, celebrates the richness of mixed heritage and reclaims it as a badge of honour.

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s04 e01 | Kareem Parkins Brown https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/10/20/s04-e01-kareem-parkins-brown/ Mon, 20 Oct 2025 15:17:59 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/?p=14595 Kareem Parkins Brown joins Yomi and together they share how humour, grief and real life have influenced his writing. Kareem’s work often touches on nostalgia and friendship, with surrealism playing a major role in his existential poetry talk show. He performs his poem ‘What I’ve Learned (after Aja Monet), a poem that looks at memory and social commentary. They watch Joshua Bennett’s ‘16 Bars for Kendrick Lamar’, a homage piece to one of contemporary hip-hop’s most celebrated voices. A piece that mirrors the standard length for a verse in rap, aligning poetry precision with the culture of rap.

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S3 EP20 | Amen Noir – Maintaining Presence https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/04/23/s3-ep20-amen-noir-maintaining-presence/ Tue, 22 Apr 2025 23:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/04/23/s3-ep20-amen-noir-maintaining-presence/ In the final episode of the season, Amen Noir and Yomi talk on the spoken word scene over the years and what gives strength to presence on stage, they touch on music and the power of harnessing your vulnerability. They discuss the importance of archiving in documenting the Black British cultural journey within the scene.

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S3 EP19 | Belinda Zhawi – Connecting to your voice https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/04/16/s3-ep19-belinda-zhawi-connecting-to-your-voice/ Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/04/16/s3-ep19-belinda-zhawi-connecting-to-your-voice/ Yomi is joined by Belinda Zhawi where they delve into how Belinda uses sound and voice in her work to transport audiences. They discuss the influences that fed into their craft and the legacies and contexts that come into storytelling.

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S3 EP18 | Asmaa Jama – Honour your words https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/04/09/s3-ep18-asmaa-jama-honour-your-words/ Tue, 08 Apr 2025 23:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/04/09/s3-ep18-asmaa-jama-honour-your-words/ In this episode, Yomi is joined by Asmaa Jama. They talk about the interdependencies that writing and visuals have had on Asmaa’s work and creative journey. They discuss the importance of embodying and honouring your words through your work, allowing yourself to take up space and reach audiences.

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S3 EP17 | Emmanuel Sugo – ‘Its a natural language’ https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/04/02/s3-ep17-emmanuel-sugo-its-a-natural-language/ Tue, 01 Apr 2025 23:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2025/04/02/s3-ep17-emmanuel-sugo-its-a-natural-language/ Join Yomi and Emanuel Sugo as they discuss the intersection of poetry, fitness, and cultural storytelling and the many other doors that poetry has opened for them.

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S3 EP16 | Vanessa Kisuule – The power of performance https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/11/06/s3-ep16-vanessa-kisuule-the-power-of-performance/ Wed, 06 Nov 2024 00:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/11/06/s3-ep16-vanessa-kisuule-the-power-of-performance/ This week, Yomi speaks to Vanessa Kisuule where they talk on the transformative power of performance. This episode delves into evolution of craft, the balance between page and stage and the profound impact of community and collaboration, discussing the richness of voices that are reshaping the poetry landscape.

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S3 EP15 | Muneera Pilgrim – Witness your journey https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/09/25/s3-ep15-muneera-pilgrim-witness-your-journey/ Tue, 24 Sep 2024 23:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/09/25/s3-ep15-muneera-pilgrim-witness-your-journey/ In this week’s episode, Muneera Pilgrim joins Yomi in discussing her experience as a poet, coming from a hip hop background. They touch on the journey you take in seeing your worth and believing in yourself and how they were able to embody that.

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S3 EP14 | Jeremiah Brown – Its a journey https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/06/19/s3-ep14-jeremiah-brown-its-a-journey/ Tue, 18 Jun 2024 23:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/06/19/s3-ep14-jeremiah-brown-its-a-journey/ In our latest episode, Yomi speaks to Jeremiah about his poetry journey, touching on the various mediums that Jeremiah has experimented with through his work. They talk on exploring poetry commercially, navigating poetry as a multidisciplinary artist and how you find yourself through these transitions.

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S3 EP13 | Courtney Conrad – Keeping the faith https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/06/05/s3-ep13-courtney-conrad-keeping-the-faith/ Tue, 04 Jun 2024 23:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/06/05/s3-ep13-courtney-conrad-keeping-the-faith/ This week, Courtney joins Yomi in discussing what keeps them going. They touch on the value of community, taking things at your own pace and not limiting yourself. Courtney walks through different moments that have been pivotal, exploring religion, culture and other elements that feed into your authenticity.

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S3 EP12 | Roger Robinson on being unapologetically you https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/05/15/s3-ep12-roger-robinson-on-being-unapologetically-you/ Tue, 14 May 2024 23:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/05/15/s3-ep12-roger-robinson-on-being-unapologetically-you/ In this week’s episode, Yomi speaks to Roger about his experience in different poetry scenes. They talk on the different dynamic talent that Roger has encountered and how it has highlighted the value of individuality. Roger discusses his relationship with music and how balancing different crafts feeds into his creativity.

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S3 EP11 | BREIS – Its important to feel seen https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/03/27/s3-ep11-breis-its-important-to-feel-seen/ Wed, 27 Mar 2024 00:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/03/27/s3-ep11-breis-its-important-to-feel-seen/ In our latest episode Yomi talks with Breis about balancing his life as a poet, author, hip hop educator and MC. They discuss business in poetry and Breis reflects on some of his proudest moments and how his work and outlook have evolved over time.

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S3 EP10 | Miss Jacqui – It takes a lot of heart https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/03/13/s3-ep10-miss-jacqui-it-takes-a-lot-of-heart/ Wed, 13 Mar 2024 00:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/03/13/s3-ep10-miss-jacqui-it-takes-a-lot-of-heart/ In this week’s episode Yomi and Miss Jacqui discuss social influences, being a multidisciplinary artist and accessibility in the industry. Miss Jacqui talks about being human and how her work highlights the emotions that we all feel but don’t know how to articulate. Miss Jacqui reads the poem version of her song ‘Body Beautiful’.

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S3 EP09 | Ragz CV – It’s all about the community https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/02/28/s3-ep09-ragz-cv-its-all-about-the-community/ Wed, 28 Feb 2024 00:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/02/28/s3-ep09-ragz-cv-its-all-about-the-community/ Yomi talks to Ryan about the power of community and the importance of supporting young people. Ryan pays homage to those who have fed into finding his purpose, whilst also speaking on the frustrations he experienced that have fuelled him towards his path. Ryan reads his poem ‘Don’t let the ends be the end’.

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S3 EP08 | Joshua Idehen – You gotta get your hands dirty https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/02/14/s3-ep08-joshua-idehen-you-gotta-get-your-hands-dirty/ Wed, 14 Feb 2024 00:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/02/14/s3-ep08-joshua-idehen-you-gotta-get-your-hands-dirty/ This week, Yomi and Joshua discuss the “urgency” of writing. Joshua explores the impactful moments in his artistic career, reminiscing on the integral people he’s met along the way, from poetry nights to performing to the King of Sweden on national television. Joshua reads his poem ‘It’s closing time’.

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S3 EP07 | Roy McFarlane – You’ve got to speak your truth https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/01/31/s3-ep07-roy-mcfarlane-youve-got-to-speak-your-truth/ Wed, 31 Jan 2024 00:00:00 +0000 https://applesandsnakes.org/2024/01/31/s3-ep07-roy-mcfarlane-youve-got-to-speak-your-truth/ In this episode, Yomi and Roy recognise the people and the environments that have created the poetry scene today. They talk on the process of publishing and how to maintain your voice and access rawness as you progress. Roy reads his poem ‘To the Heron who stood with me in the ruins of another Black man’s life, After Gwendolyn Brooks and Gil Scott-Heron’.

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